2008年6月29日日曜日

毎日新聞「WaiWai」閉鎖を惜しむ同情的な声が大多数:英語掲示板、英語ブログ等英語サイト。(爆w

インターネット上にWaiWaiと全く関係無い毎日新聞女性記者、社員個人の人格を著しく誹謗・中傷する映像や書き込みがばら撒かれた件

の続きです。

実際に毎日新聞社:「WaiWai」を英語で読んでた方々からは
閉鎖を惜しむ声が主流のようですな。(爆w


一番コメントが多く他と比較すると毎日新聞に厳しいJapanProbeですが・・・

英語WIKIのRyann Connellの項目で頑張られてる方(笑)が
奮闘されてるようですが、それでも閉鎖を惜しむ声多し。

Comment by Masuo Kamiyama
2008-06-25 21:08:13
So far Mainichi’s worry is just how they could keep advertisement sponsors, not readers. They have not apologised for their fabricated articles- mostly no resources while they explained they had just translated articles from magazines circulated in Japan. They have just said a sorry for “inadequate” quotes. It is because they pretend to have reported facts.

I wonder why Mainichi didn’t see the second bankruptcy when it came to be appeared that they leaked the detailed information to the cult, “Oumu Shinrikyo” about the lawyer who supported the victims of this new religion group and got murdered with his wife and baby.
http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=4977#comments

オウムに情報を流したのは毎日新聞じゃなくてTBSなんですけど・・・

工作員乙!(爆w


そう言えば、まとめサイトもJapanProbeへのリンクが多かったですね。(爆w

後は参考にまで。

I saw today that it was discontinued. A true shame, as while it was fully un-politically correct, it was always darn funny.
chad on June 23rd, 2008
Wai Wai’s been running for a long time, book versions of its columns haver been published, and there are obviously a lot of people who enjoy it. Maybe they’re all low lifes, like me, I don’t know. But I can’t see that it does any harm, other than to offend the sensibilities of people who are probably already taking life and themselves too seriously.
jhlimey on June 23rd, 2008
it’s pity because thinking up those headlines must be awfully difficult..writing the associated near-fiction as Dan describes it - (hey! it’s job)
one of my all-time favourites is
“Alien Bible Discovered!..They Worship Oprah!.”
Now that is Pulitzer deserving stuff or whatever the Japanese equivalent is.
remora on June 23rd, 2008
I’m not arguing against the existence of WaiWai, because I know how funny it could be, but the position of goofy tabloid news alongside straight news was, in a word, “inappropriate.” For a country so easily misunderstood, WaiWai was a constant acknowledgment to the uninitiated that Japan really is some kind of perverted wacky-land.
feitclub on June 23rd, 2008
I for one am rather sad. For years now, Wai Wai has been part of my healthy breakfast. Now there’s no point in even visiting the Mainichi site, is there? I’m sure that more’s going on here than justa few readers complaining about the content. Actually, for a long time now Wai Wai has been pretty tame compared to some of its older stories about knidergarten hookers, elder deruharu, incest in Hokkaido and Chocko-Ball Mugabi. T’will be missed.
bamboo on June 23rd, 2008
I’ll miss it.
Mr. T on June 23rd, 2008
What a bunch of tossers. Lose the only thing that justified the existence of the Mainichi website in English because “Some readers pointed out that various articles published in the WaiWai column were inappropriate content for the Mainichi Daily News. We respond to this criticism by halting publication of this column.”
So how many is “some”? Little bit of detail too much to expect from a supposedly serious newspaper?
As for the public promises to “severely punish the head of the Digital Media Division, which is responsible for overseeing the site, the manager responsible for the corner and the editor involved with the stories”, well how about some hara-kiri for the editor-in-chief or whatever he’s called, for letting such filth leak out in his name for so many years.
Can’t wait to see how much the hits for the MDN site go down now.
Ryan & rest of the crew, sub-editors not least, please, please set up your own site and show those self-righteous w@nkers @ HQ what they’re missing.rabileeds on June 24th, 2008
It’s a big loss, and will be missed. I don’t really agree that the WaiWai stuff was presented as equal to the headlines. If they had been lumped in with the basic headlines, sure, but they had their own section in the corner, with a more-than-adequate disclaimer. Anyone who encountered those stories elsewhere on the net and then made some kind of blanket assumption about the Japanese is a moron, anyway. Besides, on countless occasions you’d get something absurd such as “Footwear fetish thief used boot odor to fantasize about owners” in the national headlines first, only for it to appear a week later in the WaiWai with further details. When the real headlines are no longer more surreal and salacious than the tabloids’, then maybe the critics will have a leg to stand on. In the meantime, I’m sure the Mainichi will renew its commitment to real news by publishing tons of photos the next time an exciting new Triumph bra is released.
tenguleavings on June 25th, 2008
http://japundit.com/archives/2008/06/22/8614/
by Wakannai on Tue 06.24.2008 11:18 pm
I'm not big on punishment myself. One of my personal favorite phrases is: "Don't be sorry, just don't do it again." Apologizing and continuing the behavior rings insincere, while reforming proves the sincerity, even if an apology is lacking. Of course this only applies if noone was hurt.
I just looked at wai wai as a Japanese version of Star or Enquirer. So the problem wasn't with the articles, the problem was with the audience.
by doinkies on Wed 06.25.2008 2:47 am
This blog post sums up my feelings toward WaiWai, particularly the last sentence:
You can’t be a news service and also offer shameless articles concerning “bestiality restaurants.”
I know there are many people who like to laugh at weird tabloid articles, but they don't belong on a large, non-tabloid newspaper's site. You don't see other major newspapers' sites having that kind of content. Yes, they were in their own section, and yes, I know that they cited the tabloids, but even then there were still some doinks out there who took them as 100% truth (even though the stories were written in an obviously tabloid style), including that "bestiality restaurant" article...
Then again it seems that the English version of Mainichi has always been more "tabloid-y" than the Japanese version.
I don't think that those responsible should be heavily punished, though.
by becki_kanou on Wed 06.25.2008 10:07 am
I think I agree with Wakannai. While having the sexy and sensationalistic articles in a "respectable newspaper" was certainly ill-advised and bad form, I don't see how there was any actual wrongdoing.
I've read a few of the articles that were linked at various websites and they always seemed like titillating but ultimately harmless junk. Any sensible person stumbling upon one of the articles would recognize them for the tabloid trash they are and take them with a grain of salt. On the other hand, anyone who takes their ideas from what a country's culture is like from a tabloid rag is probably beyond help already.  

by AJBryant on Wed 06.25.2008 10:40 am
Well, admission time.
When I was at the Mainichi, I was one of the two people responsible for the intro of WAI WAI to the paper. Of course, the Wai Wai was structurally very different and we were much more selective in content back in 1991. Basically, we took about half a dozen stories, condensed each one into one paragraph, and had a big section of topical Japanese newspaper and weekly mag comics with translation and cultural notes, etc. Basically, the Wai Wai page was "this is this week in Japanese pop culture."
Apparently, it's changed somewhat since Adam and I worked on WaiWai.
http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=11384&sid=74b2ba5ad34f42981491cbb72dc76687
http://dyejunior.blogspot.com/2008/06/why-no-wai-wai.html
http://www.varietyasiaonline.com/kaijushakedown/COMPLAIN-COMPLAIN-COMPLAIN
http://fareastcynic.com/?p=1679
http://www.keithwatanabe.net/blogs/2008/6/26/0f0b3676c50d84d7f6edbb0aebacdafb.html

4 件のコメント:

ちゅちゅもえらー さんのコメント...

キチガイ連呼松葉と妙におとなしい福井の気味悪い対称が何なのか、よくわかりました。
アメリカに渡った元サマナも元気ですね。もう40超えるのに。

visitor さんのコメント...

��オウムに情報を流したのは毎日新聞じゃなくてTBSなんですけど・・・
 TBSは毎日新聞の系列ですけどww。A^_^;)
当然情報や記事は相互融通です。
TV朝日と朝日新聞、と同じですがな。
そうかそうかそんてちゃく・・・。

匿名 さんのコメント...

オウム真理教の情報を流し、存続が危ぶまれたのは毎日新聞ではなくTBS。
TBSビデオ問題
出典: フリー百科事典『ウィキペディア(Wikipedia)』
移動: ナビゲーション, 検索
TBSビデオ問題(TBSビデオもんだい)とは、1989年10月26日に、東京放送(TBS)のワイドショー番組『3時にあいましょう』のスタッフが、弁護士坂本堤のオウム真理教問題について批判のインタビュー映像を放送直前にオウム真理教幹部に見せたことが、9日後の11月4日に起きた坂本堤弁護士一家殺害事件の発端となったとされる事件である。オウムビデオ事件、単にTBSオウム事件、TBS問題・TBS事件・TBSビデオ事件ともいう[1]。
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/TBS%E3%83%93%E3%83%87%E3%82%AA%E5%95%8F%E9%A1%8C
 「報道のTBS」と呼ばれた同局は、報道・情報番組は得意分野だった。
ワイドショー全盛時代の90年代には朝ワイド「モーニングeye」が視聴率で同時間帯トップを独走。
ゴールデン帯にも「スペースJ」など、数多くの報道・情報番組を編成していた。
しかし、90年代後半にはオウム真理教ビデオ事件の影響から、次々と報道・情報番組が打ち切りに。
その後、情報系番組を復活させたが、かつての勢いを取り戻すことはできなかった。
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20080628-00000007-nks-ent

てんこもり野郎 さんのコメント...

ヒント:
そのコメントを書いた人の名前に注目(w
Masuo Kamiyama
http://www.google.com/search?q=Masuo+Kamiyama+&btnG=Search&hl=en&sa=2
→Masuo Kamiyama
→Masuo Kamiyama
、、、(爆w
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物事の表側だけでなく裏側も見る努力をしませう。(w